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jackpucci Posted: Fri, Jul 9 2010 3:43 PM

How come with all the research goin g on in the diabetic  arena no one has figured out why diabetic patients who undergo this procedure see the blood sugars go to normal before losing any weight. Is it that the sugar/insulin relationship has not been truly understood all these  years.

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I don't know where you read that bg levels go to normal before weight loss.  Most people who undergo this surgery lose weight before they get out of the hospital.  The main thing they eat after surgery is some form of liquid protein, little or no carbs.  (My wife had this surgery so I am familiar with the details.)  Hard for bg levels to go high if you are not eating carbs. 

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shortie replied on Sat, Jul 10 2010 10:05 AM

I had a post already and doing a search for  "diabetes surgery cure" to post internet sites on it, and lost my post....dang it.  But if u do a search u will see NBC, CBS and other medical sites stating that hormones in the gut are thought to cause the diabetes, not getting fat.  It was on TV on the World news in and weekly news magazines.....immediate cure after surgery with no weight loss.........Doing the surgery cures diabetes even in thin T2 diabetics.   Wonder if the medical arena will get on this fast.....JOSLIN????......I do know that diabetes is big business.....and if we are cured....a lot of business will go broke.....no strips, no pills, no monitors, no hospital visits, no amputations, no no no.....whatdouthink?

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Simi_Papa replied on Sat, Jul 10 2010 2:05 PM

Calling bypass surgery a "cure" is over stating the effect of this surgery on diabetics.  Diabetes, like alcoholism, is a no cure disease.  Once you are diabetic you will always be a diabetic.  That's said, you can be a diabetic whose blood glucose levels are considered normal (like many of those posting on this site), but you can quickly get out of that normal mode by eating badly or not doing the things that got your disease under control. 

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Tor replied on Sun, Jul 11 2010 11:17 AM

I lost weight the hard way or maybe it was the easy way, with a combination of walking after each meal and switching from High GI to low GI carbs. (Dropped from 224 lbs and a bmi of just under 30 to 175 lbs and bmi 23.) That was about 10 years ago, and the effect on my diabetes/blood sugar control was just absolutely amazing. Since then my hba1c has never been above 6. That said, I know I still am diabetic, or as some would call it, effected by Syndrome X. I recently ate a basket of strawberries and half an hour later my eyes were hurting so I checked BG: 14.5 (261). As for surgery itself having a mitigating effect on BG levels, all the research I've seen states that surgery creates stress which normally aggravates blood sugar levels. Possibly, if someone is having a very peaceful post operative experience in hospital with pleasant nurses and doctors, free of daily stress and worries, that could have a positive effect.

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cindyc replied on Sat, Jan 5 2013 12:43 PM

You're right - gastric bypass surgery - even without weight loss - improves blood sugar levels. My A1c dropped from almost 9 to around 6 and has stayed there ever since!

I am two years post op.  I have come off so many medications, including 2 types of insulin which I had been on for years, not to mention all the other improvments that I have seen.  Best thing I have EVER done! Big Smile  I wish that I had known all of the benefits sooner!  I have my life back.

It must have to do with the cut and hormones.  Good Luck!

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Lucky you....I am STILL diabetic after gastric bypass surgery and now on an insulin pump! The only positive is I am normal weight and came off blood pressure meds as well as cholesterol

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VOW replied on Thu, Oct 18 2018 12:52 PM

First, I will introduce myself. I joined the Joslin boards back in probably 2003, shortly after being diagnosed with Type 2.

 

My diagnosis was given to me by my family doctor on my 50th birthday. Happy freakin' birthday, right?

 

*waving to Tor and any other old timers!*

 

Of COURSE I was overweight! Of COURSE I now had the dreaded trilogy: high blood pressure,  high cholesterol, and now Type 2 diabetes.

 

I ended up getting the Lap Band in 2004.

 

I lost about 80 pounds.

 

Contemporaries who got the Band about the same time I did no longer have it. Complications set in, so it was removed. The ones I know of regained their weight.

 

One person, my daughter, eventually had gastric bypass done after she had healed from the removal surgery. She then went on to experience countless complications, some life threatening, some requiring additional surgery. She now has a belly full of adhesions, and must watch her diet like a hawk to avoid weight gain.

 

For me, following my Band placement, I was able to stop the Metformin immediately. That truly wasn't a "miracle" benefit of the surgery itself. The post- surgical diet is extremely restrictive. And it is pounded in your head that if you do not follow the post-surgical diet, the Band could fail.

 

My daughter's post-surgical diet fot the bypass made the Band post-surgical diet look like Thanksgiving dinner.

 

Insurance companies don't approve Band surgery much any more. They go for gastric bypass or "The Sleeve."

 

Backsliding, not exercising, eating calorie dense foods, you can outsmart any bariatric surgery.

 

Does bariatric surgery help? Hell, yes. But it is only a TOOL. You still have to work at, every single day of your life.

 

 

~VOW 

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